This will be closed for flaming (Opinion) in about...

Triton wrote:

KingdomDarkII wrote:

"Once you say the word revolution, everyone's on board. And what power do we crave? Locking and deleting threads?"
Don't you wish you had the power to change people? Anyone in the world? Whether it be me or anyone else. Don't you feel this world would be better without certain people or certain opinions. Opinions that cause misery and strife? Now, replace the word "world" with forum. You know you answered "Yes" to atleast one of those.

Yes, but we all crave that, but none of those are you main motifs for the power of being a staff member on a "cp" forum. And what about the rest of my post are you going to ignore that? Why must we listen to you if you won't respond to us? Your just splattering out accusations without any solution. You don't stay to make it better, just cause chaos and confusion.

Sounds familiar...
*cough* during the Bush administration*cough*

During the Bush administration, the Democrats were only saying "Bush sucks" using an incredibly large number of words and forms of writing. However, when asked for an alternative, they basically just said "Bush sucks" in yet another different way.
This time, KD is saying "Staff sucks" and when asked for what should happen instead of the staff (TERRIBLE grammar I know) he just said "Staff sucks" again.

Neo wrote:

During the Bush administration, the Democrats were only saying "Bush sucks" using an incredibly large number of words and forms of writing. However, when asked for an alternative, they basically just said "Bush sucks" in yet another different way.
This time, KD is saying "Staff sucks" and when asked for what should happen instead of the staff (TERRIBLE grammar I know) he just said "Staff sucks" again.

Oh my...looks like I failed then.

Sorry for the comment then.

Dan wrote:

Yeah changing the topic is a very bad move..
Ok, im gonna be honest here wheather you guys like it or not.

If you dont like how we (The Staff) run this place, then leave. No one is holding you back. We've posted polls asking for opinions, and yet you still complain.. If you dont like it, then leave. Save yourself aswell as ourselves some finger muscle usage i guess..

Thats about it for now.
-Dan

I'm sure many of the complainers could use some exercise in general.

Dan wrote:

Thats not the point but ok..
-Dan

I know it wasn't. It was MY point.

Dan wrote:

Neo, dont be a smart alack. Get on and stay on topic.
-Dan

I'm sorry dad. I mean Dan.
Just kidding. I'll stop now.

Okay, the four admins wanted this place to be a CP forum. The last survivor of the four has been gone for what 7 months now? Already we've killed each other.

The activity of this forum is the staff's fault. We don't like them so we leave, though the staff have a lot of excuses to keep themselves on top, so why bother with this R-Word thread?

Anyway, this forum means a lot to me because I want power, and that is why I will never be a moderator.

If the users really want to start a revolution,go ahead , It makes my job much easier.

If the staff really want to look good, so their empire can stay up and they can have power forever, so be it.

All I know is that I came to this forum when I played club penguin. I haven't been to clubpenguin.com in a year, I'm only hear because I'm having to much fun.


All of the users disagree with the staff on all of their decisions. The only ones that don't are the users that want to be a moderator.

That's my facts, flame this if you want my opinions.

Pman San wrote:

Okay, the four admins wanted this place to be a CP forum. The last survivor of the four has been gone for what 7 months now? Already we've killed each other.

Dark, RTL, CJ, and Big Sb were the founding four. Jazzdawg was added at a later date. Big Sb is the last of the four, but he is still here.

Chao wrote:

This is what I have so far from you guys.

CPP is full of communists.
The staff suck.
Changing the topic of the forum will be like George Bush running again.
The Sovient Union is involved.

Please, keep taking notes.

Dan wrote:

Yeah changing the topic is a very bad move..
OK, I'm gonna be
honest here whether you guys like it or not.

If you don't like
how we (The Staff) run this place, then leave. No one is holding you
back. We've posted polls asking for opinions, and yet you still
complain.. If you don't like it, then leave. Save yourself as well as
ourselves some finger muscle usage I guess..

That's about it for
now.
-Dan

I agree.
This forum was set up by the Admins.
They were the ones who put the time and dedication behind CPP and brought it to where it is today. In my opinion, it is only fair that they have control over what goes on.
If you guys (DirkD, KD, etc) want the forum to have a revolution, start your own forum, make all the users as Admins, change the topic every week and see how far that gets you.
I think that changing the topic should be avoided unless particularly necessary (and now is not the time).
We, as users, should address why we want the topic changed. At the heart of all this is Gaming, General Discussion, and Graphics. Why change the topic name when you can serve both groups of users (under 12's and teenagers) without having to lift a finger and change the topic?

If we were seriously dying, if Club Penguin was dead, if all the ex-CP users were teenagers, we may need to change the topic.
But the thing is, there is still demand for Club Penguin.
We should take advantage of that and keep a CP discussion forum, while the teenage users discuss things they want to. Therefore everybody wins.

DarkBoom wrote:

Pman San wrote:

Okay, the four admins wanted this place to be a CP forum. The last survivor of the four has been gone for what 7 months now? Already we've killed each other.

Dark, RTL, CJ, and Big Sb were the founding four. Jazzdawg was added at a later date. Big Sb is the last of the four, but he is still here.

Guin, Dark, CJ, RTL and Sb were the founding five. I love how everyone likes to forget Guin ever existed. He started CPL!

DirkD wrote:

I'm just gonna say this and I've said it before. Barring a major forum change, like the one we had planned, anything that the stuff does, not everyone will agree upon, so there is really nothing that the staff can do to make the forum better. It gets old eventually.

Pman San wrote:

, I'm only hear because I'm having to much fun.

If you call this fun you really need to reconsider what you do in your spare time.

I thought a forum was supposed to be something fun you did in your spare time.

Neo wrote:

DarkBoom wrote:

Pman San wrote:

Okay, the four admins wanted this place to be a CP forum. The last survivor of the four has been gone for what 7 months now? Already we've killed each other.

Dark, RTL, CJ, and Big Sb were the founding four. Jazzdawg was added at a later date. Big Sb is the last of the four, but he is still here.

Guin, Dark, CJ, RTL and Sb were the founding five. I love how everyone likes to forget Guin ever existed. He started CPL!

Yeah, I was actually thinking about that post last night for some reason and then remembered that Guin was one of them. Never had time to come back and fix it though, thanks. :P

DarkBoom wrote:

Pman San wrote:

Okay, the four admins wanted this place to be a CP forum. The last survivor of the four has been gone for what 7 months now? Already we've killed each other.

Dark, RTL, CJ, and Big Sb were the founding four. Jazzdawg was added at a later date. Big Sb is the last of the four, but he is still here.

Facepalm - Dark,RTL,Guin,CJ four original admins, Sb was added a day after.So no 4 of the admins are left, I was there, were you?

DirkD wrote:

I'm just gonna say this and I've said it before. Barring a major forum change, like the one we had planned, anything that the stuff does, not everyone will agree upon, so there is really nothing that the staff can do to make the forum better. It gets old eventually.

Pman San wrote:

, I'm only hear because I'm having to much fun.

If you call this fun you really need to reconsider what you do in your spare time.

You sir need to act 16 and not rip on ever post I make thinking it has something to do with you.

Dan wrote:

If you dont like how we (The Staff) run this place, then leave. No one is holding you back.
Thats about it for now.
-Dan

Trust me, if everyone took up your advice and did what you said, half the userbase would be gone by now. Someone is bound to complain, Dan. You simply can't satisfy everyone.

Dan wrote:

Neo, dont be a smart alack. Get on and stay on topic.
-Dan

Cold wrote:

Chao wrote:

This is what I have so far from you guys.

CPP is full of communists.
The staff suck.
Changing the topic of the forum will be like George Bush running again.
The Sovient Union is involved.

Please, keep taking notes.

Dan wrote:

Yeah changing the topic is a very bad move..
OK, I'm gonna be
honest here whether you guys like it or not.

If you don't like
how we (The Staff) run this place, then leave. No one is holding you
back. We've posted polls asking for opinions, and yet you still
complain.. If you don't like it, then leave. Save yourself as well as
ourselves some finger muscle usage I guess..

That's about it for
now.
-Dan

I agree.
This forum was set up by the Admins.
They
were the ones who put the time and dedication behind CPP and brought it
to where it is today. In my opinion, it is only fair that they have
control over what goes on.
If you guys (DirkD, KD, etc) want the
forum to have a revolution, start your own forum, make all the users as
Admins, change the topic every week and see how far that gets you.
I think that changing the topic should be avoided unless particularly necessary (and now is not the time).
We,
as users, should address why we want the topic changed. At the heart of
all this is Gaming, General Discussion, and Graphics. Why change the
topic name when you can serve both groups of users (under 12's and
teenagers) without having to lift a finger and change the topic?

If we were seriously dying, if Club Penguin was dead, if all the ex-CP users were teenagers, we may need to change the topic.
But the thing is, there is still demand for Club Penguin.
We
should take advantage of that and keep a CP discussion forum, while the
teenage users discuss things they want to. Therefore everybody
wins.

Although subject at matter is not the topic change, I'd like to reply to that:
All right, I admit, you do present a good argument. Perhaps now is not the time for a topic change. However, sooner or later, we'll need to make a change and we're better off planning for that early... maybe by adding an age limit, and slowly and steadily shifting focus to less CP-related subjects? I don't know.


P.S. Not all people are fit to rule. If all the important decisions in the world were made by those who inhabit it (racists, idiots, comic book villains, etc), the world itself would've probably ceased to exist ages ago.

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I agree.
This forum was set up by the Admins.
They were the ones who put the time and dedication behind CPP and brought it
to where it is today. In my opinion, it is only fair that they have
control over what goes on.
If you guys (DirkD, KD, etc) want the
forum to have a revolution, start your own forum, make all the users as
Admins, change the topic every week and see how far that gets you.
I think that changing the topic should be avoided unless particularly necessary (and now is not the time).
We,
as users, should address why we want the topic changed. At the heart of
all this is Gaming, General Discussion, and Graphics. Why change the
topic name when you can serve both groups of users (under 12's and
teenagers) without having to lift a finger and change the topic?

If we were seriously dying, if Club Penguin was dead, if all the ex-CP users were teenagers, we may need to change the topic.
But the thing is, there is still demand for Club Penguin.
We
should take advantage of that and keep a CP discussion forum, while the
teenage users discuss things they want to. Therefore everybody
wins.

No, the people that made CPP what it is today were people like DB, Egaro, DirkD, and RR.
YOU and the rest of the current mods have had NOTHING to do with what CPP is today, unless by that you mean a forum full of dictators.

And for a mod, you seem to stray off-topic alot.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHANGING THE FORUM! IT HAS TO DO WITH THE STAFF ABUSING THEIR PRIVILEGES!

KingdomDarkII wrote:

Quote :

I agree.
This forum was set up by the Admins.
They were the ones who put the time and dedication behind CPP and brought it
to where it is today. In my opinion, it is only fair that they have
control over what goes on.
If you guys (DirkD, KD, etc) want the
forum to have a revolution, start your own forum, make all the users as
Admins, change the topic every week and see how far that gets you.
I think that changing the topic should be avoided unless particularly necessary (and now is not the time).
We,
as users, should address why we want the topic changed. At the heart of
all this is Gaming, General Discussion, and Graphics. Why change the
topic name when you can serve both groups of users (under 12's and
teenagers) without having to lift a finger and change the topic?

If we were seriously dying, if Club Penguin was dead, if all the ex-CP users were teenagers, we may need to change the topic.
But the thing is, there is still demand for Club Penguin.
We
should take advantage of that and keep a CP discussion forum, while the
teenage users discuss things they want to. Therefore everybody
wins.

No, the people that made CPP what it is today were people like DB, Egaro, DirkD, and RR.
YOU and the rest of the current mods have had NOTHING to do with what CPP is today, unless by that you mean a forum full of dictators.

And for a mod, you seem to stray off-topic alot.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHANGING THE FORUM! IT HAS TO DO WITH THE STAFF ABUSING THEIR PRIVILEGES!

Ok stop with the dictating and all that crap and give us proof of all the "accusations" that you are talking about. We've been asking in the whole thread for them...

Pman San wrote:

DarkBoom wrote:

Pman San wrote:

Okay, the four admins wanted this place to be a CP forum. The last survivor of the four has been gone for what 7 months now? Already we've killed each other.

Dark, RTL, CJ, and Big Sb were the founding four. Jazzdawg was added at a later date. Big Sb is the last of the four, but he is still here.

Facepalm - Dark,RTL,Guin,CJ four original admins, Sb was added a day after.So no 4 of the admins are left, I was there, were you?

DirkD wrote:

I'm just gonna say this and I've said it before. Barring a major forum change, like the one we had planned, anything that the stuff does, not everyone will agree upon, so there is really nothing that the staff can do to make the forum better. It gets old eventually.

Pman San wrote:

, I'm only hear because I'm having to much fun.

If you call this fun you really need to reconsider what you do in your spare time.

You sir need to act 16 and not rip on ever post I make thinking it has something to do with you.

Take in to fact that there were 3 founding forums, not 4. Guin, Dark, and ... RTL? Were the founders of the first three that merged for CPP. So there was originally just 3 main admins. CJ (or RTL, or whoever...) and Big Sb were co-admins from two of the founding forums that also became admins. One day doesn't make a difference. If you want to go into detail, then you are as well wrong. I was there, were you?