One of Mankind's Biggest Questions 1

Rutherfordium104 wrote:

I just thought I would add some things to point out: firstly, there is NO SUCH THING AS GOD (this is a SCIENTIFIC discussion). A second thing is, I heard the chicken evolved from Velociraptors. Also, the one penguin who posted right before was back-seat modding.

Charels Darwin, creator of that theory, disproved that before he died. So before you start talking REPORT ME I SWORE - REPORT ME I SWORE - REPORT ME I SWORE learn your facts.

BT wrote:

Rutherfordium104 wrote:

I just thought I would add some things to point out: firstly, there is NO SUCH THING AS GOD (this is a SCIENTIFIC discussion). A second thing is, I heard the chicken evolved from Velociraptors. Also, the one penguin who posted right before was back-seat modding.

Charels Darwin, creator of that theory, disproved that before he died. So before you start talking REPORT ME I SWORE - REPORT ME I SWORE - REPORT ME I SWORE learn your facts.

You rock point

Also, prove to me using an expeiment that evolution is real.

Because I know it's not.

A species of 100% senseless bug (can't see, hear, feel, ect...) camoflauges itself as a leaf. Tell me how it know to do that.

Exactly, and if evolution was real why is it not happening still today?

And again that first little bacteria, bug, or whatever you call it, how did that come to being? Are you going to say that evolved too? Then from what did that evolve from and so on.

Agreed if evolution then wouldn't we all be turning into some kind of thing with no hair at all

It isn't happening today because it doesn't affect on person or anything. It affects a species over time. Not in three minutes.

What do you mean? Since the start of everything, everything HAS changed a lot. You aren't going to notice changing of species by looking at your friend or something. It can take hundreds, thousands, millions of years to do something noticable.

Argie wrote:

What do you mean? Since the start of everything, everything HAS changed a lot. You aren't going to notice changing of species by looking at your friend or something. It can take hundreds, thousands, millions of years to do something noticable.

Exactly, but the same species that have been written in records from long past years still display the same species in their same natural forms. Nothing changed.

I just don't really get how I'm supposed to be able to believe that something happened out of nothing.

It's not happening out of nothing, it is happening with mutations, breeds, and natural selection.

Oops, I think this is the wrong thread... this is about the chicken and egg and not evolution. =P Oh well.

Argie wrote:

It's not happening out of nothing, it is happening with mutations, breeds, and natural selection.

But show me where that all started from. What cause these mutations and breeds?

A circle has no beginning.

Plus the evolution theory says we evolved from monkeys and what about all those monkeys out there eh? :roll:

I just thought I would say something: the first bacteria formed from organic molecules, water, and a bit of energy in the form of lightning.

Rutherfordium104 wrote:

I just thought I would say something: the first bacteria formed from organic molecules, water, and a bit of energy in the form of lightning.

Ok, now please explain where that water came from, those little organic molecules, and the bit of energy.

Many of the elements were around when the earth was first forming. The energy came from lightning (there was a lot of that back then). Hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and many other elements were on Earth. These then all combined to form the water and organic molecules. So there.

Rutherfordium104 wrote:

Many of the elements were around when the earth was first forming. The energy came from lightning (there was a lot of that back then). Hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and many other elements were on Earth. These then all combined to form the water and organic molecules. So there.

I know I'm sounding annoying, but then where did those elements come from?

Addy wrote:

A circle has no beginning

Or an end, therefore, it doesn't exist.

Just like time,
The future is neither the present or the past. But 5 minutes from now, it will be the present, and six minutes it will be the past. Time isn't relative.

Triton wrote:

Rutherfordium104 wrote:

Many of the elements were around when the earth was first forming. The energy came from lightning (there was a lot of that back then). Hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and many other elements were on Earth. These then all combined to form the water and organic molecules. So there.

I know I'm sounding annoying, but then where did those elements come from?

When the Sun was first forming, there were massive clouds of hydrogen. The Sun began to fuse two isotopes of hydrogen (deuterium and tritium) under intense heat and pressure, forming helium. Meanwhile, tiny bits of rock were swirling around in a disk around the Sun. These rocks all began to clump together to form the cores of the outer planets and the terrestrial planets. Farther out in the solar system, there was more gas, so the protoplanets out there became the gas giants. Those closer in became the terrestrial planets (which includes Earth).

My grandpa is a scientest and he says the chicken. I say the egg. Hmm.

Triton wrote:

Rutherfordium104 wrote:

Many of the elements were around when the earth was first forming. The energy came from lightning (there was a lot of that back then). Hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and many other elements were on Earth. These then all combined to form the water and organic molecules. So there.

I know I'm sounding annoying, but then where did those elements come from?

Can I just end all of these annoying questions with a few rather simple yet confusing statements?

The answers to all of these questions can be explained in many different (and infinite) ways depending on what you believe in, and thus the argument becomes a science vs religion argument. But it's really a pointless argument seeing as both sides disprove each other. Plus you have to take into account that those aren't the only two possibilities. In an infinite universe there are infinite possibilities, which can disprove each other so well that it becomes incredibly improbable that any one of those possibilities is even CORRECT.

More importantly it becomes even more incredibly improbable that we will ever find the answer, if there even is an answer to begin with, if there even is ANYTHING to begin with.

The point I'm trying to make is that (when you think about it), all facts are indefinite. (So it only matters what you personally think, which in a way means that all imaginable debates are pointless)

BT wrote:

Addy wrote:

A circle has no beginning

Or an end, therefore, it doesn't exist.

Just like time,
The future is neither the present or the past. But 5 minutes from now, it will be the present, and six minutes it will be the past. Time isn't relative.

someones already stated it.
like he said, "the circle has no beginning or end"

end of story.

The cat. Watch, as my amazing logic unfolds before your very eyes-
Cat=Scaredy Cat=Chicken
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Egg.
HA!
Fools! All of you!

I'd say egg because if their was no egg then the chicken wouldn't be alive but if you picked chicken. Where did the chicken come from? The egg of course.
8D